#1 2017-05-30 18:46:28

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Ryzen

How does the release of MOOOAAAARRR COOORRREESSS affect the replacement cycle of our friendly hosts (Just in general. We LES suckers are happy with old and slow stuff)? smile

Granted, RAM has become a lot more expensive recently sad

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#2 2017-05-30 20:56:29

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Re: Ryzen

old and slow stuff?

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v2 
Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2640 v4

yikes


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#3 2017-05-30 20:57:49

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Re: Ryzen

At the moment Ryzen has been noted to perform very badly in virtualisation so I don't expect much to change, perhaps with the i9 release, things will change.


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#4 2017-05-30 21:06:10

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Re: Ryzen

Ewww, that first E5 is nearly 4 years old yikes

i9 sounds good, we can then finally have LES boxes that can do "Extreme Mega-Tasking" wink

Not much gain in efficiency thogh by the looks of it...

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#5 2017-05-30 21:12:25

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Yep the only downside will be your price will change from €3.50 p/year to €3.50 p/month smile


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#6 2017-05-30 21:21:01

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Re: Ryzen

Is this old stuff rented or did you actually buy the hardware at that time?

Can you maybe... give us a fancy new i9? For the same price?

Here is an adorable video to convince you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrEr9Z0LUtA

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#7 2017-05-30 21:33:42

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it is a mix, it depends on the location, there is absolutely zero chance I can offer you an i9 based VPS for €3.50 the CPU alone is around $2000 and I don't even think they have been released yet.

I really don't consider this kit as 'old stuff' but if you want bleeding edge hardware take a look at the more premium UK Xen services I offer through Inception Hosting E3v5's the prices start at €10.00 p/month for 512mb ram and a dedicated IP.


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#8 2017-05-30 21:44:02

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Re: Ryzen

So its a trickle down system basically which makes sense. Do you usually just buy new hardware when you need it or when the hardware is a decent step up from the previous kit? When do you retire really old stuff?

Technically those "old" xeons could still be used for more expensive vps', so why provide the LES community with those?

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#9 2017-05-30 21:51:24

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To be honest, there is no 1 formula, when I get to 80% or so capacity I look at options then, I don't just buy kit for the sake of upgrading it, if it's not broke don't fix it etc.

No one buys a VPS for dedicated resources anyway, if they do then they need to rethink their entire strategy, so in real terms if I gave you a VPS on a E3-1230 first gen and another on an i9 and hid the CPU ID from you, I think you would be hard pushed to see any difference in 'real world' use.

In a number of locations I just nest the LES node as 1 big KVM server on a production node, it is more cost effective and works out better for everyone.


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#10 2017-05-31 05:21:32

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Re: Ryzen

Well it used to be that data centres replaced their hardware every 3-5 years simply because several servers could be consolidated into one machine, saving electricity and space which in the long run is more expensive. The difference between a first generation e3-1230 and i9 is not that massive though, thats true. Usually the bottleneck ends up being the drives.

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#11 2017-05-31 05:59:29

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Well the types of servers I use either cost £10,000 to buy and about £150 p/month on colo or £400 - £500 p/month to lease, obviously that covers no other expenses, so it's not really practical to do 2 - 3 year cycles and remain competitive, even Linode were using 7 - 8-year-old CPU's up to last year.


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#12 2017-05-31 06:34:51

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Re: Ryzen

£10 000 per server, how many of those do you have yikes

Well it would be a lot more reasonable if CPUs doubled in performance every 2-3 years, which they no longer do sad

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#13 2017-05-31 10:21:33

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Send me a stamped addressed envelope and I will just send you a copy of my business plan and financial documents smile

haha.


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#14 2017-05-31 10:25:52

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You can post all business plans and financial stuff on my LES box. It's good to have other people back up your data wink

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#15 2017-06-01 20:11:23

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Re: Ryzen

Backtogeek wrote:

Send me a stamped addressed envelope and I will just send you a copy of my business plan and financial documents smile

[email protected]


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